Carth Oansi
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Posted - 2012.09.13 01:24:00 -
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Seriously? This thread is a joke.
-Weapon skills dictating ship skills? No sorry, thats what SHIP skills are for. Thats the way it has always been and the way it should stay, no ship requires you to skill in a weapon type nor should it.
-T2 medium guns for a battleship? Why? 5-6 more weeks of training isn't going to make a wink of a difference when that noob takes his megathron into low sec (if wasted on something stupid like T2 medium guns). Way to make them wait longer and try harder for their ship, now they feel worse that they wasted a whole month rather than 7 days. Not to mention, medium guns on a BS is about as noob as it gets. Obviously you dont mean for them to put medium guns on a BS, but this can be misleading to a new player.
-Okay T2 meds for a battleship? Maybe you sold me. So now you say the purpose is so they can fly a battlecruiser well? I thought we were talking about battleships here, not battlecruisers. It will take them longer to train all that extra bull crap up than it would take them to get some weapon/tank specific skills up for a battleship (assuming their core is already okayish). Young BS pilot vs young BC pilot and the BS pilot will kick its ass. Young BS pilot vs two, 1 year old BC pilots (still rather "youngish"), depending on how well the BS has been trained he might kill one of them, but will probably die. Put a young BS pilot vs a 3-4 year old cruiser pilot, and the BS will die in a fire. It's not that BS are easier to fly or better to fly, its the age difference which is intangible. If you take it for what it is and comapre apples to apples, BS beats BC in most cases. (Simply based off of overall DPS and tank)
-Lets NOT create mechanics that make eve a safer place for derps please. If you want to be an idiot go play WoW. If you can't fall on your face in this game (because of something YOU did, most likely), then get back up, eve probably isn't the right game for you.
-Noobs in battleships isn't the problem (as someone said earlier). It's the education level. That being said, it is NOT CCP's job to teach people how to fly a battleship. That should be the job of a friend, corp leader, director, in game organization (E-Uni etc). I have helped plenty of very young players get into a battleship, its probably the BEST ship for a 2-3 month old character in a small to midsize group atmosphere (of course this also depends on what you do, 0.0, wh, highsec, it all will vary). Of course, you need to really help them with their training in skills and practical usage. Most important is that you dont throw them to the wolves. But seriously, think about it. Cruiser or battlecruisers do 200-400/500 DPS for someone who is 2-3 months old. Battleships will do 400-800 (yes I had a megathron pilot get up to 800, not great, but for 2-3 months, not too shabby). The EHP is 100k or more in a BS whereas in a BC you'll be lucky to get more than 50-60k in a solid fit. Sure its more expensive but, again, goes back to being in a group atmosphere where the corp either has industrial friends or their own industrial backbone where they can make ships available and affordable for their members.
Eve is a cut throat game, its got a steep learning curve, and it doesnt cater to stupidity. If a noob has a BS, fine, own it. But be sure you are being smart with it, and unless you've got a friend helping you out, its going to take some losses. Happens to everyone at some point, and if you can't deal with the no respawn, again, WoW is that way. --> |